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  I'm a Liar

  by Perry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so, i'm downtown quite early the other morning while still dark and i see a man holding an awake.

  so, i pull over and wave him over.

  after a few words of cordiality, i ask him why jehovah's witnesses teach that jesus returned invisibly in 1914 when jesus himself said this:in matthew 24:.

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  johnny cip

  r6laser: who was the liar in this case? it was the jw that couldn't answer a simple question that he's preaching and counting time to please a bunch of false prophets in bklyn. everything the wt has ever said about 1914 is all bullcrap. remember everything the wt teaches, lies etc. about 1914 is ALL BULLCRAP. repeat after me EVERYTHING THE WT SAYS ABOUT 1914 IS BULL CRAP. write that 1000x's when you get that through your head. then you can see it's not an arguement. eph 5'11 expose false teachers. your jw DOPE PEDDLING zombie standing out on the corner. got caught with his pant's down, i mean the jw couldn't get past one good question. and that same jw thinks of him self as a minister of god? ahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahhahahaha don't make me laugh. john
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  Anybody want to sell me the original Jan 1st 1989 watchtower?

  by ninja in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the one with the "preaching work will finish in our 20th century" quote ....i will pay good money for it....pretty please....it could sway someone out of the watchtower trap... they wont look at photocopies...here's hoping...

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  johnny cip

  ninja; jw's had me running around for years researching thier own material. then when i found it they laughed it off. do the smart thing tell your jw friend to ask around and for him to find an orginal copy .and the bound volunes to see the change. let him know if he can't find it on his own your not going to waiste your time , as you already seen it for your self. till he looks it up for you . i would tell him he can't prove anything. and how can we get to the next wt lie till you yourself research it? doesn't the bible teach to prove all things TRUE? get to it brother. i learned this years ago. make them research. when they don't call them dishonest, and not to be trusted... you can go a long way with this. john
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  I'm a Liar

  by Perry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so, i'm downtown quite early the other morning while still dark and i see a man holding an awake.

  so, i pull over and wave him over.

  after a few words of cordiality, i ask him why jehovah's witnesses teach that jesus returned invisibly in 1914 when jesus himself said this:in matthew 24:.

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  johnny cip

  good work Perry. you had him pinned and he knew it. so he went into a personnal attack. when ever they pull that daniel crap. i say ok so daniel prophecied 600 years before jesus came that jesus would return in 1914. right that's what your saying. now show me were jesus quoted from daniel on the 2560 days being his return to kingdom power. it must be in the gospel right? something so important as that jesus surely would have quoted? straight from daniel word for word. here's the bible show it to me. oh it's not there is it. because jesus never quoted daniel on it . because the 2560 days has nothing to do with the return of jesus. that's were i call the jw a liar and a false witness. and you know what jehovah thinks about a false witness? how many years have you been teaching the words of men. you should be ashamed of your self. it's like taking candy from a crying baby. and jw's are cry babies. john
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  Going to see the elders, don't know how do drop the bomb.

  by Anti-Christ in

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  2. current

  i have been inactive for about 3-4 years they want to meet with me(sure took them a long time) i'm not to sure what angle to go with.

  i definitively do not believe in the borg.

  any more but not too sure about the bible( still searching ).

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  johnny cip

  gregor ; gives some of ther best advice here if you want to piss them off. i would start knocking at your elder friends doors. bible in hand. at some off hour. and start asking them about why the wt is a false prophet. and start throwing out dates. etc. go to all their doors and work them over till they ask you to leave. then call them hypocrites. if they can't stand what they are trying to do to you. oh i just wish they were calling me. start calling them night and day. just reverse everything they are doing to you on them. boy i could make it hell for your elders.
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  Looking back: "FACE THE FACTS"

  by Nathan Natas in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  jehovah's witnesses, or the international bible students association, is a sect which believes it is helping to establish god's kingdom on earth, distrusts formalized religion (particularly roman catholicism), engages in periodic spats with the law because its members like to peddle anticlerical pamphlets, dislike to have their children salute the flag in school.

  the longtime pontiff of jehovah's witnesses is rawboned judge joseph frederick rutherford.

  the judge is the big money-maker for the sect, which claims that 275,000,000 copies of his writings have been circulated in 80 languages.

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  FUNNY nothing in those later wt coments about 'FACE THE FACT" on how hitler was going to take over britian and america? and nothing about HOW THAT FAMOUS SPEECH/BOOKLET 1938 say wo to woman with suck of child. in these last days. now is not the time to have children. just before the end. remember the wt said since 1925 they were teaching not to have children. a 21 yrs old woman in 1925. have been 49 yrs old when the wt ( i think this is when the no children stuff stopped) in 1953. that's why i read a wt article around 2001-3 on the life stories azbout how this jw got married in the 50's and missed out on having kids. his wife was too old. if you read the article carefully you could pick it out. i really pissed off my jw friends with that article . i always love them life stories in the wt . you always find sometghing if you know what to look for. john
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  Looking back: "FACE THE FACTS"

  by Nathan Natas in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  jehovah's witnesses, or the international bible students association, is a sect which believes it is helping to establish god's kingdom on earth, distrusts formalized religion (particularly roman catholicism), engages in periodic spats with the law because its members like to peddle anticlerical pamphlets, dislike to have their children salute the flag in school.

  the longtime pontiff of jehovah's witnesses is rawboned judge joseph frederick rutherford.

  the judge is the big money-maker for the sect, which claims that 275,000,000 copies of his writings have been circulated in 80 languages.

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  johnny cip

  darth yes your right. and thanks to blondie for finding a few newer wt quotes on 'FACE THE FACTS"
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  Looking back: "FACE THE FACTS"

  by Nathan Natas in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  jehovah's witnesses, or the international bible students association, is a sect which believes it is helping to establish god's kingdom on earth, distrusts formalized religion (particularly roman catholicism), engages in periodic spats with the law because its members like to peddle anticlerical pamphlets, dislike to have their children salute the flag in school.

  the longtime pontiff of jehovah's witnesses is rawboned judge joseph frederick rutherford.

  the judge is the big money-maker for the sect, which claims that 275,000,000 copies of his writings have been circulated in 80 languages.

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  johnny cip

  I'm surprised, not many interested in this WT GEM "FACE THE FACTS" 1938 just having this booklet and reading it to your jw family will shut them up fast. john
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  His energy bill is $0.00

  by Brother Apostate in

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  2. current

  i just read about a guy in nj who lives in the nation's first solar-hydrogen house.

  the technology this civil engineer has been able to string together solar panels, a hydrogen fuel cell, storage tanks, and a piece of equipment called an electrolyzer provides electricity to his home year-round, even on the cloudiest of winter days:.

  http://news.yahoo.com/s/csm/20070315/ts_csm/chydro.

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  johnny cip

  if you use wind or solar etc. the electric co in your area. has to buy back what ever excess you produce. so if you can make enough cheap electric. you will be recieving a check from the electric company instead of a bill just ask the wt's they got $50,000 FROM THE state to help them produce their own electric at patterson.
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  Looking back: "FACE THE FACTS"

  by Nathan Natas in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  jehovah's witnesses, or the international bible students association, is a sect which believes it is helping to establish god's kingdom on earth, distrusts formalized religion (particularly roman catholicism), engages in periodic spats with the law because its members like to peddle anticlerical pamphlets, dislike to have their children salute the flag in school.

  the longtime pontiff of jehovah's witnesses is rawboned judge joseph frederick rutherford.

  the judge is the big money-maker for the sect, which claims that 275,000,000 copies of his writings have been circulated in 80 languages.

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  johnny cip

  ah yes 'FACE THE FActs' WAS UP HELD in a few newer wt mag's in the last 10 years as the next best book since the writings of ST. PAUL funny no jw i could find ever seen the booklet. well i just had to get my hands on one, being proper spritual food at the proper time and all. well once i found a copy, after a year of searching, i started questioning jw's about this booklet and how the wt LIED ABOUT IT JUST LAST YEAR . you had to see the jw's heam and horn. at what i was reading them. they just loved the spritual injuction not to have children in 1938. boy did i drive this home. my jw friends hated when i would call them and read from"face the facts" THEN READ THE LATEST WT'S THAT CALLED THIS BOOK/SPEECH GREAT. i hope someone hear posts all the times this book is glorified in wt's in the last few years. then get your copy from LULU . AND LET THE FUN BEGIN be the first at your hall to get your most rightous pride full dub's to try defending this junk as bible truth. your sure to get reactions from , elders with smoke coming out of their ears, to bitchy pioneers sisters sticking thier head in the toilet. and at $7 a copy buy a bunch and start your own saturday study , and bring barf buckets. sure to be fun for the most zealous .
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  Pressure to conform from his wife's congregation; Part 2

  by OnTheWayOut in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this is what was said in part 1 of this thread: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/125918/1.ashx.

  so this guy i see occasionally at work (he's a traveling .

  representative and passes thru now and then) is really easy.

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  johnny cip

  otwo ; i've been reading your story for months. and i feel for you. that's why i haven't commented much.. i see what your trying to do. i did much the same your trying to do. it didn't work in my case, i tried the OLD SOFT SHOE. for a few years, got me no where. just made me hate the wt more. you fade at your pace. just be ready for what happens when the final shoe drops. from reading what i can find on the net. about 90% of jw's can't get their family out. then you realize the old soft shoe was a waste of years. you still end up broken. i truely wish you well, and hope you understand my bitterness and stance against the wt. john